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Friday, December 12, 2008

Whacky Kovalchuk Trade Rumours

The Ottawa Sun dredges up more Ilya Kovalchuk trade rumours, which prompted an immediate and vehement denial from Thrashers GM Don Waddell. The Edmonton Journal chimed in, though, wondering if the Oilers would give up Shawn Horcoff, Tom Gilbert, Andrew Cogliano and a first-round pick to get him. <Link>

Seriously? I think that's a slight overpayment and a bit unrealistic. On a team with too many young skilled forwards and goaltenders, would you move your top centerman, one of your top 3 D-men, and your 2nd line centerman? For a team that already has problems winning faceoffs or finding guys who show up at the rink with intensity, losing guys like Horcoff and Cogliano all in one go would be a tremendous blow to this team. Losing a smart D-man like Gilbert would mean Staios would have to pick up some of the offense. The Oilers would have to give up some roster players, but giving up so many guys off your top pairing and lines would not be a feasible deal.

Ottawa Sun, you fail.

A more feasible deal (not that I would do this) would go along the lines of this:

ATL Cap room: 9 million
EDM Cap room: 0.5 million
Needed salary dump: 8.5


Salaries Approximate

To Edmonton: LW Kovalchuk, C Reasoner, D Exelby, 3rd round pick 2009 (Tot. Salary = 7.5 + 1 + 1.5 = 10)
To Atlanta: LW Penner, C/LW Nilsson, C/LW Schremp, D Gilbert, D Smid, D Grebeshkov, G Roloson, 1st round pick 2009, 2nd round pick 2009 (Tot. Salary = 4.25 + 2 + 0.65 + 4 + 1 + 1.5 + 3.5 = 16.9 or 17)

I realise this is a huge deal, but I could see the salary being moved as being very very important considering how tight Edmonton is to the cap. 17 - 10 is still just 7 million but if you consider that Gagner will not reach his bonuses, and that Peckham, Roy, MacIntyre, Jacques, Brule, Schremp, and Sestito are not earning their full dollars, you will make up for that 1.5 million discrepancy.

Atlanta needs skilled forwards to make up for their current needs, and the loss in Kovalchuk that would occur. They also need a younger D core, something Edmonton can provide since we have guys waiting in the wings. Plus, they have some extra cap room and could use a veteran guy behind Lehtonen.

Below is the perfect deal, in my mind:

To Edmonton: Kovalchuk, Little, Lehtonen (Tot. Salary = 7.5 + 1 + 3 = 11.5)
To Atlanta: Cole, Penner, Gagner, Nilsson, Gilbert, Schremp or Brule, Pouliot, Chorney or Grebeshkov, Staios, Garon, 1st round pick 2009, 2nd round pick 2009 (Tot. Salary = 4 + 4 + 1.5 + 2 + 4 + 0.7 + 0.8 + 1.5 + 2.5 + 1.2 = 21.2)

Either way, a lot of salary has to move before such a deal could even be possibly made.

Both scenarios I proposed were unlikely, though the first one is more likely considering the salaries involved.

I predict that if such a move were to occur in bringing Kovalchuk to Edmonton, Tambellini would have to dump some salary elsewhere first in order to make it happen. Nilsson, Staios, Grebeskhov, and Roloson are the obvious bets.

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Blogger MJT said...

Gretzky was traded for less...

December 12, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Blogger raventalon40 said...

He was sold for a price. The other pieces in the puzzle were of little importance.

Sure, we got Martin Gelinas out of it. But $15 million back in the day, before inflation. Yikes man.

He was flat out sold.

Even today $15 million is a good chunk of the salary cap. Imagine what that meant for Peter Pocklington in the pre-salary cap era.

December 12, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Blogger Jason said...

um... i seriously doubt either of those 2 trades. in both trades, we'd be trading upwards of 8 players. that's 2 forward lines and a d-pairing. you would DESTROY whatever team chemistry was left on this team, which is the current problem. on paper, this team is as skilled as any team in the league. but on ice, the reason why we fall short is due to chemistry. if you trade so many players, you might as well just give us tavares.

December 13, 2008 at 6:48 AM

Blogger raventalon40 said...

Most of the guys I suggested have been shuffled this year, have been injured, have have been on the fringe. The only exception on that list is Gilbert, Penner, Roloson, Grebeshkov, all of which were only offered due to salary cap concerns.

I also mentioned at the bottom that I thought both were unlikely scenarios, but perhaps your speed-reading missed that delicate suggestion.

December 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM

Blogger Smokin' Ray said...

Kovalchuk for Penner, Nilsson, Pouliot and Roli. Would work $$$ wise. Really tho... Penner and Roli is good enough $$ wise to make the trade. I really don't think the Oilers need to make room financialy for anything, do you?

December 13, 2008 at 4:39 PM


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